thanks rocketman,i am looking forward to a ride with you guys.Little saudi,no not yet .I read an article or two on it ,sounds like a small place and a lot of mud ?sounds more four wheeler friendly but till i see it ,who knows.I thought i heard there was dunes thier ?I have been working on my buddy's 300ex and the fl350.I am putting in a new TeamTech 5pt harness and hopefully a skid plate before ecj hits at the end of the month.Any of you guys going to attend the ecj ?