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Joshsol

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Honda FL583 build
« on: April 12, 2020, 11:52:11 AM »
Hi everyone
My name is Josh, I am new to this forum
I am 18 years old and have just about finished building an fl350 from the ground up with a Rotax 583 and Farr (Emmanuel? please let me know which you prefer) front suspension! been an amazing journey and I would like to share what I have done and also get some advice where possible! disclaimer, I am pretty new to the whole area of building, fabricating and setting up engines, etc. (this is basically my first project) which is also why I would love to make a build page here so I can get advice and criticism!
I started my project last august after buying my oddy completely disassembled for $500 (from what I can tell the best deal ill find for a long time). came with the stock engine (not running), Rotax 583 (rebuilt for this project) with Farr's custom engine mount and carb joiner, stock front suspension plus Farr's custom front suspension, extra set of rear tires, and all the stock parts (except one axle was broken and hand brake cable was seized). The only thing that was bolted to the frame was the gearbox and engine mount. so began the assembly! so much fun, so interesting, and so much to learn!! (I'm sure i still have lots more of that coming my way too!). Anyway the build went smoothly. some modifying involved like making brackets to mount things and welding up the front suspension adapter. I have a stick welder that i used (I know not the best but i don't really have the budget for a new welder). the welds aren't what you would call pretty but they seem to be strong enough and as this is also a school project, my goal was to try and do everything myself. The only thing I had custom welded was the gas tank so it would fit around the 583. I have the Farr pull start mod plate but i don't think I'm going to install it. It would be nice to have pull start but i don't really like how there's only one frame tube left after the install and I would have to get it professionally welded if i want it to be strong enough. I don't want to make this post too boringly long so i will try to post pictures to show my build.
after completing my build to where i can drive it, i have some questions id like to ask if anyone out there is willing to answer:)
1. rear shocks (stock): one shock is leaking oil, the other has a bent shaft (id say 1/2 inch bent). i was going to replace the seals to stop the leak but got stuck in figuring out how to dissassemble the shocks. after assessing the bent one i thought id be better off just getting new ones. from what I've read on this forum there are 5 options. stock, Fox, Worx, progressive (413?), or atv shock and make a custom mounting system. I'm gonna exclude stock and custom setup since i don't really know much about shock geometry and how it all works. from what I've read worxs are the way to go? price? do they make all their orders over the phone? and if so what are the things i should know before calling?
2. exhaust: i have a modified (to fit in the frame) 583 expansion chamber going to the stock muffler. however the expansion chamber has a bigger size diameter hole than the stock muffler. i currently have it just pressed together and it works temporarily but I'm curious what others have done? new muffler altogether? or fab an adapter?
3. seat: i have the stock seat and it has a few cracks, not to bad though. thing is it has to be set all the way forward and I'm 6'2" so my legs don't lie flat. i would like to get a new seat that has an adjustable back or is set more upright so i can move it farther back without hitting the expansion chamber so my legs lie flat. any suggestions? this is probably something i will work on in the future (don't want to spend a whole lot on a brand new seat).
4. 2 stroke oil res: i know some people have removed the oil injection system from their 583 but i decided to keep it. is there any important tidbit of knowledge i should know as to why its better to keep or remove the oil injection system?
5. paint: my plan is to completely strip it this summer and repaint. i have used spray paint for painting all the things i have made so far but dont want to do that when i repaint. i have an HPLV gun which was given to me so i was thinking of going with that but i really don't know much about painting and which kind of paint to use. from what iv read it sounds like powder coating is the best option however that sounds expensive and i would like to do this myself if i can. any thoughts or tips greatly appreciated:)
Im sure i have more questions but i think this post is already too long so ill end it hear. any comments, concerns, questions, and tips would be greatly appreciated!. i can post more pics if necessary
if there are any technical things i should know about this forum please let me know :D
very excited to part of this community!
Josh

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Re: Honda FL583 build
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2020, 12:06:28 PM »
having trouble posting pics.. says error your request could not be completed..?

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Re: Honda FL583 build
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2020, 07:31:04 AM »
I just called Worx, they said $689 for a "base" pair plus shipping (with dual-rate and pre thread). is that what they cost now? I've read other threads here of people paying $400. is that a different shock?
thanks
Josh