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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« on: June 14, 2012, 03:02:30 PM »
Working it out at Moreland's MX in Stanton, MI, I lost drive to a rear wheel. Never good, I climb out to find the axle loose and clinking in the inner cup on the left side. A teardown shows the cage lost a piece, allowing a ball out, which allowed all of them to roam. Unless I find one easily, the 3rd machine will start to loose parts. As things go, I'm glad that it was the inner cage and not a  axle or outer CV, as being an ATVR long travel, the the inner stuff can be swapped out from a stocker. Time to pull both cups out of the trans as long as they're apart.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2012, 06:36:33 AM by odypilots »
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Re: Buasted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2012, 08:03:10 PM »
Lst time I checked,the inner cup was still aailable....Kinda pricy but you get the cup and cv internals....

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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 06:36:01 AM »
Oh, really? I must have been thinking of the 350, that the axle was only sold as a unit. I'm on the phone with my Honda dealer! Thanks!
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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2012, 03:02:04 PM »
The dealer said they show it in the exploded view, but no part number. He'd be glad to sell me an complete axle  for $770.
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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2012, 03:18:28 PM »
42220-HE0-013  It's #5 on the parts fiche....

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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2012, 06:18:15 PM »
Ahh, finally typing on a real keyboard again!! Obviously my dealer is clueless. He claims that part number refers to the (what I call) the inner race, that the cage holds the balls into. 200 and some dollars. So I ask if that's for the whole inner assembly, balls, cage, race and he says nope. Just the inside piece. Seems like a lot, as well as, if it's available at whatever the cast, why not offer the other pieces? It doesn't seem like that would be the only wear item in there.
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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2012, 06:39:45 PM »
The cage and the race are 2 different things....The cage holds the balls in place,the race is what the balls roll in....The cup is the race....

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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2012, 10:45:38 AM »
I see what you say about the cup being the race. What do you call the piece that is inside the cage, under the balls. That the snap ring keeps from sliding off the axle?

I just need to get into the dealer, since I'm calling things by their wrong names.
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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2012, 01:56:27 PM »
I just looked over the drawing again as well as talking to my dealer,and now he and I both are convinced that #5 is the entire inner joint,including cup,balls,and cage....Should be the entire assemble ready to put on the axle shaft....

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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2012, 03:19:18 PM »
Thank you for checking, Hoodlum. I really appreciate you posting that. I have a used assembly ready to go on, but new is my long term fix, after I shorten my shocks. Too much droop is allowing the axle to bang into the edge of the cup.

Dave C.
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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2012, 08:53:45 PM »
Oooooo....Not good....By the way,you missed a GREAT St Joes trip this year.....Weather was great....It was actually too cool for the beach a couple of days,and wore long sleeves at night....Nothing close to your last experience....

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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2012, 09:08:49 AM »
Good to hear you had good weather, St Joes is fun.

Dealer tells me the part number is for the cup only. He was quite sure. 25% restocking fee. I'm gonna ponder it for a while.
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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2012, 12:26:29 PM »
I would tell him to order it....It doesn't cost them anything to send it back....Never heard of that restocking fee.....Want me to order one through my dealer? I might get one too for a spare...Might get a better price that way.....They usually give me a discount as well....

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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2012, 03:56:41 PM »
Restocking fees are normal around here, but they usually waive them. I think I will just order it.

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Re: Busted the cage in my inner cv on the LT
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2012, 06:52:30 PM »
As per my usual mo, I drug my feet on ordering the part, but Livewire ordered one, and Hoodlum and his parts guy were right. The part was the whole inner cv and cup, but oddly enough, it didn't come with the snap ring that retains the cup in the trans. I thought about going back to my dealer to inform them, but the chances that they would ever need that info for another customer is small, so screw it. Thanks to Hoodum and Livewire  for your efforts toward finding out the info. You are both stand up guys!
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